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Rise of the Ancient General
The Bond with a God
From Jinx to Fortune
The Empress's Consort
Love in Full Bloom
Starlit Hearts
Killer Beauty
Blind Date with My Boss
My Cheating Husband
My Crazy Fiancee
My Retro Romance
Her Forbidden Lovers
ในอ้อมกอดคุณหก
The Undercover Fiancee
Married But Available Perfume And Moon
Gilded Chains
Hidden Gem
Seduced By Playboy Boss
The Amazing Luna
Mobster's Cinderella
Mr. Stewart’s Prejudice And Fake Love
My Majestic Lady Warrior
My Light Within the Dark
(Dubbed)Back in Time to Punish My Family
The Farmer's Delicate Bride
Gentle Whispers of Fate
Let Me Go, Mr. Ford
His Ultimate Favor Is Me
Mr. Lee, You've Got the Wrong Lady
My Ex's Boss Is Now My Wife
X-Ray Queen
A Wrong Night, Forever His Prey
My Mall Connects to the Ancient World
My Son is the CEO
Vows of Vengeance
Her Bump Conquers a Billionaire
The Billionaire's Contract
I Will Find You, Girl
Love in Twilight
The Beggar and the Empress
Billionaire CEO Falls in Love with Me
Undercover Heiress, Wed to a Mystery
No One Messes With Ms. Keller
I'm Always There for You
Jason’s Spoiled Wife
(English-dubbed)Love's Second Chance
Boss Daddy on the Hunt
My Gigolo Husband, The Billionaire Surprise
Forbidden Desire：The Vampire CEO's Servant
The Overdue Confession
The Wife who Sees
Hello My CEO
Sleeping Next To You At Night
The Night That Tied Us Together
My Sister is A General
Twin Sisters Fight Back
Miss CEO's Revenge
A Heart Only She Could Touch
Accidentally in Love
Everyone Wants My Genius Girl
Tell Me You Love Me
Love, Loss, and Lies
Lucky Jinx Girl
Her Silent Rebellion
Family Forever
Unexpected Love with My Boss
To Live or To Love
Gambling Queen against Casino
The Twins' President Daddy
One Night with My First Love
Rise of the Ancient General
Lily, bullied by her aunt and cousin, is suddenly possessed by her ancestor, Charlotte, a general of Sumeria. Using her skills, she uncovers a hidden treasure to save the failing Linley family, and exposes her aunt’s crimes. She then rises as a relic expert, and trains her cousin to inherit the family business.
The Bond with a God
Three months ago, Lia Silva dreamed she was pregnant with the Flying Snake God, Soren. As she sought to escape her foster parents’ abuse, Soren appeared to protect her, revealing her blood curse and true identity. Together, they battle an evil family. Their baby becomes the eternal bond of their love!
From Jinx to Fortune
In the 1970s famine years, little Benny gets found in the mountains by Olive, the village jinx. She raises him on her own and meets Ethan, a sickly but kind man. Through hardship, the three of them grow into a family, the curse fades, and Benny’s luck helps them rise to become the richest in the county.
The Empress's Consort
Seeking vengeance, General Jesse Sullivan wakes up as noblewoman. With Crown Prince Fabian's aid, she uncovers a conspiracy while healing him. Her identity is exposed, leading to her demise as she breaks a fatal array. After Fabian clears her name, Jesse is revived three years later.
Love in Full Bloom
A young romance turned tragic when Alex was diagnosed with brain cancer. To save him, Evelyn left alone bearing their child, Mia. Five years on, Lane fell ill and slipped into a vegetative state. Mia plays violin on the streets. Now the richest man in Capital City, Alex comes home to look for Evelyn and they finally meet again.
Starlit Hearts
A chance marriage binds struggling actress Summer Lane and Alexander Ford. As Alexander hides his true identity, he helps Summer rise above family troubles and industry rivals. When a plot threatens their love, Alexander's loyalty wins his family's acceptance, and Summer becomes the cherished star of his life.
Killer Beauty
Top assassin Maisie dies on a mission and wakes up as Karlee. After a one-night stand with River City's most powerful man, Jason, she gives birth to Evan. Five years later, Jason takes Evan away, and she goes undercover as his bodyguard to get Evan back. Love reignites, and the family reunites.
Blind Date with My Boss
The person I went on a blind date with turned out to be my boss! To pay for my mother's medical expenses, I must seduce my boss into loving me, obtaining company secrets; at work, I must disguise myself completely to prevent him from finding out. I fell in love with my boss and tried to give up stealing secrets, but he discovered my dual identity...
My Cheating Husband
Grace believes that love conquers all and that Alex is her soulmate. She is determined to go ahead with the wedding, despite the obstacles and warnings. But fate has other plans for her. Grace's destiny is intertwined with the will her father left behind, which holds the key to her past, present, and future. She faces a series of challenges and choices that will test her faith, loyalty, and love...
My Crazy Fiancee
The immortal man Cheyne marries Chloe, the infamous crazy woman, due to a scheme. He tries to stay away but discovers her rare bloodline can boost his cultivation, so he secretly protects her. As she repays him while hiding her true nature, her scheming sister pushes too far, and Chloe unleashes her power to protect her beloved.
Her Forbidden Lovers
Being the sole heiress of a business conglomerate, 21-year-old Audrey receives the shock of her life when her dad orders her to be married within a year. He forces her to attend a party with a list of all the potential suitors that are up to his standards. But as Audrey plans her escape from the party, she falls into the hands of the Vanderbilt brothers. Caspian, the older brother, is a hot and sexy womanizer with a heart of gold. Killian, the younger brother, is a cold and tortured soul, with eyes as blue as the ocean. Audrey, Caspian, and Killian start off as friends, but one surprise trip to Bermuda later, Audrey finds herself stuck in a love triangle with the two brothers. Will she choose one of them to marry, or will she let go of her senses and be lost in the devil’s triangle?
The Undercover Fiancee
To avoid an arranged marriage to boring heir Julian, Vivian fakes her identity and becomes his assistant, not realizing he's her childhood sweetheart she's been longing for. Working closely, they grow closer, unaware of their true connection. When the shocking revelation comes, they’re forced to face their true feelings.
Married But Available Perfume And Moon
Alpha Arthur's return marked a grand estate feast where he rescued Chloe, the butler, from noble Eileen's insults. Despite Chloe's engagement for her grandfather's sake and Arthur's subsequent departure, she silently worked at William Manor to cover medical expenses. Arthur, captivated by Chloe's talent, defied opposition and annulled the engagement. In a surprising twist, Chloe's awakened werewolf genes unveiled her as Arthur's destined mate.
Gilded Chains
Yvonne West and Archie Sheldon share a passionate love, but torn apart by fate. Years later, Yvonne is dating Sheldon's best friend, Zane Fisher, until Sheldon returns, entangling them in a storm of desire, loyalty, and buried feelings. As Yvonne fights to save her father, Sheldon bends the rules to lift her up, forcing all three to confront their pasts and emerge transformed.
Hidden Gem
Ruby is a paralegal executive assistant extraordinaire, juggling a busy work life with keeping legal guardianship of her younger sister. She barely has time for romance, especially when she's been secretly in love with her boss of three years, Bradley Carmichael. She hopes that one day she'll catch his eye but it hasn't worked out yet. But then Bradley's older and domineering brother Eric crashes into her life and disturbs her like no one ever has before.
Seduced By Playboy Boss
Cora Bowers is a bookworm, that just graduated with an MBA from Harvard. She is a really smart girl, with the weight of the world on her shoulders. She needs a job quickly to be able to help her parents pay the bills. She goes in for an interview for a job that she really needs, and while she is waiting to do her interview, she gets hired for another position, as a Personal Assistant for one of the hottest bachelors in New York. Collin Lauder works hard, and he doesn't have time for normal relationships. He dates models and actresses, and he doesn't want a real relationship anyway. To Colin, Cora is just a plain jane that never wears makeup and always has her hair in a bun. She dresses badly, as he clothes are not nice enough, and to him, that makes him look bad. She is a direct reflection on him and his company, and she isn't making a good impression. He wants her to quit and leave the job to the PA who has done it for the last 40-plus years. Cora makes a deal with an up-and-coming designer, she will model for him, and he will let her keep the outfits that he makes especially for her. As Cora's appearance and clothing start to improve, so does Collin's impression of Cora. He wants to get with her eventually, but first, he wants to try out the new "it girl" on the modeling scene. And what will happen when Collin finally figures out that the gorgeous new model "Shea" is actually Cora, modeling under her middle name?
The Amazing Luna
Alicia is an orphan. Treated as a servant by Alpha Colin's family, she looks forward to escape from the Shadow mountain pack. When she turns 18, she meets her fated mate Alpha Louie. Will Alicia remember that Louie was her childhood sweetheart? Will Alicia seek revenge on those who tortured her?
Mobster's Cinderella
Frank saves Angela from bully, and finds that she looks like his late lover Kelly. Both of them fell in love at the first sight. Angela felt disheartened and ran away from Frank when she knew she was just a substitute for Kelly. Will Angela grant Frank a second chance? Will Frank realize his true love?
Mr. Stewart’s Prejudice And Fake Love
Yvonne, while working, meets CEO Michael, and they unexpectedly had a one-night stand. Michael's family ring, left with Yvonne, is stolen by her foster sister Yolanda. Mistakenly, Michael takes Yolanda home, thinking she's the girl from that night. Later, Yvonne's real grandfather finds her, and she reappears in everyone's lives.
My Majestic Lady Warrior
Haylee Bullock sold meat on the street to support her son-in-law Ryland Carter, who she groomed into a warrior. Unbeknownst to her, her daughter Macy was being mistreated by Ryland and her mother-in-law. Ryland even planned to sell Haylee and Macy for money, intending to propose to the daughter of King Rocha at the conferment ceremony. Little did he know, Haylee was the true King Rocha.
My Light Within the Dark
After saving an old lady, Lila Monroe was left blind—but also a million-dollar surgery fund. However, before she could use it, her mother stole the money and tried to force her into a loveless marriage. On the run, Lila was rescued by the old lady's grandson, Eagon Clark, a billionaire heir with looks to kill...
(Dubbed)Back in Time to Punish My Family
In her past life, Jade was her family's punching bag, enduring endless cruelty and meeting a tragic end. But fate gave her a second chance. Sent back in time, she rose from the ashes, building a life of brilliance and independence. As she soared, her family came to realize what they'd lost—but it was far too late.
The Farmer's Delicate Bride
To repay Edward Foster's kindness, Stella Shaw marries Charles Foster. Though initially hostile, Charles is eventually moved by her kindness. As she cares for him after an injury, love grows. Framed by Irene Cole, the truth behind a past accident emerges, but Charles saves her. In the end, the two marry in the mountains.
Gentle Whispers of Fate
Ruby is a sweet college girl with a great personality, but she's really self-conscious about a birthmark on her face. While juggling her studies, her family pushes her to get a job. During work, she finds herself in danger and meets her destined person: the heir of the Sage family. After a passionate encounter, Ruby unexpectedly becomes pregnant! Once taken to the Sage family, an astonishing mystery quickly unfolds...
Let Me Go, Mr. Ford
Lila loved Ethan until discovering his secret marriage to Sophie. After she left heartbroken, Ethan sought her forgiveness—only to learn she'd died in a crash the night he betrayed her. Reborn, Lila traded her shattered heart for a cold, new life.
His Ultimate Favor Is Me
After losing her family and being kicked out of the James Family, Bella James finds herself with nowhere to turn and ends up living in Master Miles' home. To her surprise, four years later, she becomes the apple of his eye and his beloved treasure. After countless misadventures, Master Miles only has one thing to say, "As long as Bella is happy."
Mr. Lee, You've Got the Wrong Lady
After a wild night with Brian Lee, her boss and CEO of Lee Group, Cindy Johnson fled in a hurry, accidentally leaving her friend Jane Lynn's resume in the room. Brian mistook Jane for Cindy and took her to his villa. Known for her poor makeup skills, Cindy was considered a bumpkin by colleagues and supervisors, so she decided to do her work well as an intern. Unexpectedly, Brian promoted her to his secretary. Forced to work closely with Brian while hiding her identity, Cindy gradually won his heart. Meanwhile, Jane, desperate to maintain her position, she tried everything to seduce Brian and secretly stabbed Cindy in the back. Using her wits and luck, Cindy overcame various crises and uncovered Jane's betrayal. In the end, Jane's true nature was exposed, justice prevailed, and Cindy and Brian found happiness together.
My Ex's Boss Is Now My Wife
When Ryan's world fell apart, a new door opened. An unexpected romance with Sophia, his ex's boss, set him on a journey of total transformation. He leveled up in life and in love, achieving everything he ever wanted, while Crystal, the one who betrayed him, faced the bitter consequences of her own greed.
X-Ray Queen
Rural girl Yasmin Stone, insulted by her boyfriend and his mom and thunderstruck, gains X-ray vision with a heirloom bracelet. She enters the jade-gambling world, keeps uncovering rare gems, thwarts villains, and rises to lead Link Jewelry and the Jade Association, finally unveiling the coveted Imperial Green at an exhibition.
A Wrong Night, Forever His Prey
Perhaps the thing Eliza regretted the most was selling her virginity to Eric, only to end up becoming his maid by a twist of fate. From that moment, fate took an irreversible turn. One night of passion left him craving more, and with such close proximity, their bond deepened.
My Mall Connects to the Ancient World
Sophie's mall left by her parents connected to the ancient country Quinland. She traded goods to aid their food shortage. Moe, from Quinland, supported her in clearing debts. Ultimately, Moe arrived in the modern world, and the two of them happily spent their lives together.
My Son is the CEO
Sara Lawrence, lobby manager of Glory Hotel, wrongly accuses a security guard, Brooks Lewis, who appears in the Presidential Suite of theft. However, this old man turns out to be her boyfriend's father. Brooks is also taken by surprise when he finds out that the rude girl Sara is the girlfriend of his son, who is a CEO.
Vows of Vengeance
In her past life, Hannah was forced to serve her brother-in-law while her sister Isabelle was pregnant. Yet on the day Isabelle gave birth, Hannah was killed. Travelling back in time, she plots carefully by charming Isabelle's father-in-law, marrying into the Duke’s house, reclaiming her rightful status, and rising to power.
Her Bump Conquers a Billionaire
Poor Lilah Hall lands a summer job interview… and a wild night with Erik Ward, heir to a billion-dollar empire! The explosive consequence? Pregnancy. He brands her a gold-digger, plotting to take the baby and ditch her. But trapped together, her innocence gradually melts his heart, and love sparks.
I Will Find You, Girl
Five years ago, Lawson Malone lost his sight in a tragic brake failure accident. For five years, Renaa Massey stayed by his side, caring for him with unwavering devotion. But just as Lawson was on the verge of recovery, Renaa disappeared without a word... Now, five years later, Lawson returns to the city to take over the family business and search for the girl from his past. However, things are not as simple as they seem...
Love in Twilight
Eleanor unexpectedly gets pregnant after an encounter with Philip. They conceal their marriage at the company, yet misunderstandings multiply. She gradually discovers his love and care, letting her guard down. Helping each other through turmoil, they resolve conflicts and embrace newfound happiness, embarking on a new journey.
The Beggar and the Empress
Tristan Windsor, the crown prince, becomes a beggar while fleeing pursuers. As a beggar, he catches the bouquet thrown by Yasmine Lennox, unknowingly the empress, which drags him into a conflict among clans, factions, and sects. As he fights to reclaim his throne, Tristan regains his strength and rightful place, ultimately joining the empress in a lifelong bond.
Billionaire CEO Falls in Love with Me
A nobody Wendy Stone unexpectedly encounters innocent and overbearing Joseph Shaw, who has never been in a relationship, falling in love with Wendy and initiating a fierce pursuit. However, Caroline Lynn and Cynthia Ryan, who also love Joseph, repeatedly sabotage the relationship, inciting misunderstandings and conspiring to harm Wendy's life with her ex, Jim Warren. Joseph sacrifices himself to save Wendy, clearing up misunderstandings between them, overcoming obstacles, and ultimately becoming a couple. Defying his father's orders, Joseph insists on being with Wendy but shocks her by suddenly breaking up on their wedding day.
Undercover Heiress, Wed to a Mystery
Rachel Parker, tired of her parents pushing her to get married, attends a blind date and unexpectedly meets Hayden Pearson, the powerful head of the Pearson family with his own agenda. Rachel doesn't recognize him but ends up in a whirlwind marriage with him. She hoped to find an ordinary man for a simple life, not knowing that Hayden, worried his status might affect their relationship, is keeping his identity secret while secretly showering her with love.
No One Messes With Ms. Keller
Long overlooked and undervalued, Nancy endures relentless bullying from her mother-in-law and her husband Ethan’s admirer. Diagnosed with advanced stomach cancer, she seizes control, rejecting her old life of submission for self-empowerment. As Nancy transforms, a remorseful Ethan fights to regain her love. But has he realized his mistakes too late?
I'm Always There for You
To protect her younger brother, five-year-old Nancy Long fell off a cliff and lost her memory. 15 years later, Sherry Jones, a girl adopted by a waste picker, found a job in a hotel owned by the Longs, who had no idea that Sherry was actually Nancy. Sherry was picked on and insulted repeatedly by her mother and brother. After the Longs found out who she really was, they felt so regretful and sorry the way they treated her. The Long family, after years of separation, finally reunited.
Jason’s Spoiled Wife
Molly, a college student, meets Jason by chance and gets pregnant. As they fall in love at work, he saves her from a forced marriage and marries her. When Jasmine tries to stir up trouble, her schemes reveal Molly as the true Shaw heiress. With family support, Molly and Jason overcome challenges and find happiness.
(English-dubbed)Love's Second Chance
In the years of her marriage to Owen Gray, Maya, the heiress of the Powell family, endures years of emotional abuse. Owen ignores the mistreatment she suffers from those around him, causing Maya to be bullied. In this lifetime, Maya is determined to leave this man and reclaim the dignity of being Ms. Powell!
Boss Daddy on the Hunt
Molly Shear never meant to get involved with billionaire CEO Steve Hardin—let alone end up pregnant. Ten months later, after her mother passed, Molly left her newborn on Steve's doorstep. By a twist of fate, she landed a job at his company—while Steve raised the baby and searched for the mystery mom he was determined to marry.
Forbidden Desire：The Vampire CEO's Servant
Echo was forced by her adoptive parents to marry Nikola, the founder of the Venture Group, as she was merely a "blood bag" for her sister's transfusions, and Nikola was already a "old man." After the marriage, Echo was shocked to find that Nikola was actually young and kind, with the sole exception of not allowing her to touch the coffin placed in his bedroom. A bloodstain on Echo's body awakened Nikola's identity as a vampire, which would also draw Echo into a whirlpool of deep passion and danger...
The Overdue Confession
Abandoned by her biological father and tormented by her stepmother, Lynn Shea was left with no choice but to force her way into marrying Sean Gus, a powerful and influential man in Joston. But their wedding night takes a shocking turn. He discovers a secret from her past, accusing her of being promiscuous. Months later, she gives birth to their child, only to sign divorce papers and walk away with nothing. Years later, Lynn returns to Joston with her child in tow, and the real story begins to unfold.
The Wife who Sees
After years of blindness, Irene Sandford unexpectedly regains her sight. Excited, she rushes to share the news with her husband, only to be shocked by the sight of him and the maid getting intimate in the living room. It turns out they've been carrying on their affair right under her nose for quite some time.
Hello My CEO
An unexpected event led Chloe Garcia to gain a son, who was diagnosed with hemophilia. In order to earn money for his treatment, Chloe applied for a job at Reed Group. It turns out that the person she had a one-night stand with six years ago was Evan Reed, the CEO of Reed Group. However, her sister, Dana Garcia, pretended to be Chloe and approached Evan.
Sleeping Next To You At Night
In her last life, Sylvia was murdered by her dearest family. Right before her death, she realized that the man she hated most, Charles, had taken revenge for her and then took his own life. After she returned to the past, she took revenge on all those murderers and married Charles for a happy life ever after.
The Night That Tied Us Together
In her youth, Zoe Sherman’s muse was Ethan Lester. After a drunken night together, they accidentally end up with a marriage certificate. Ethan vows to take care of everything—earning money, doing chores, and even handling diapers. All he asks is for Zoe not to leave him again.
My Sister is A General
Brave general Winona Yale, honored by the Emperor, defended her sister Yvonne Yale at her wedding, battling betrayal. After aiding her sister's divorce and arranging her marriage to Duke Matias, Winona confronted their parents who had abandoned them, vowing to make them regret forever.
Twin Sisters Fight Back
Minn Corp CEO Yo Minn witnessed firsthand the severe bullying that left her twin sister Laura Minn to her miserable fate on the school hill. Determined to take action for her sister, Yo Minn decides to wear Laura's school uniform and launch a brilliant counterattack! During her time assuming her sister's identity, she not only meticulously plans to punish the bullies who harmed Laura but also helps her sister achieve her dream of becoming the final apprentice of world-renowned designer Renee Tai. "I promise you, I will definitely help you. Don't be afraid, my little sister..."
Miss CEO's Revenge
Born in a family where her parents only loved her brother, Brocome worked very hard to make herself a president. Having left home for years, she decided to go back to help her family and villagers live a better life. However, her family were as greedy as before.After they knew she owned a company, they asked her for money. At last, she gave up the idea of helping them.Key words: girl power, fate changing, twists, drama
A Heart Only She Could Touch
Wendy Jensen grew up unloved and alone. One wrong move, and she ended up tied to Miles Quinn. He was cold, distant, and feared by everyone, including her. But the more he saw her, the harder he fell. When her friend tried to confess his feelings for her, Miles stepped in, took her hand, and never let go.
Accidentally in Love
Amidst a series of astonishing misunderstandings, Anna finds herself at the wrong hotel for a blind date, only to encounter the right partner by sheer chance. Is this fate a cunning web of political intrigue or merely a serendipitous misadventure? As their interactions unfold, Anna gradually realizes that she's falling for this unexpected companion. However, just as their paths seem to align harmoniously, the undercurrents of a brewing love triangle begin to stir, signaling that the true complexities of their entangled fates are yet to unravel.
Everyone Wants My Genius Girl
Emely, a 5-year-old orphan with healing powers, saves the dying heir of the Johnson family. Adopted by them, she becomes the key to breaking their century-old curse. Her billionaire stepdad dotes on her, while elites fight to be her apprentice, and he's filled with jealousy!
Tell Me You Love Me
Joyce, the capital's most elegant socialite, enters a marriage of convenience with ruthless CEO Justin. He sees her as just another dull trophy wife—until she shocks him by demanding a divorce. Suddenly, the boring girl he ignored reveals hidden depths, forcing Justin to question everything he thought he knew about love.
Love, Loss, and Lies
On Selene and Ryan's wedding anniversary, Selene's half-sister, Isla, crashes the party, demanding Selene give back her fiance. Right in front of everyone, she shoves Selene to the ground—causing her miscarriage. Without looking back, Ryan picks up Isla and walks away. Selene finally sees the truth and decides to get a divorce.
Family Forever
Felix King's family has genetic issues that make it difficult to have children. To ensure the continuation of the King family line, his mother asks Felix's childhood friend to drug him and find a pure girl in urgent need of money for her education, named Jane Brown. Jane unexpectedly becomes pregnant. When Mrs. King learns of this, she is overjoyed and brings Jane into their home, treating her as a treasured member of the family.
Unexpected Love with My Boss
Irene works at a nightclub to fulfill her late mother's wishes. An unexpected encounter with Julian Chilton changes her life. She joins a renowned company only to find Julian is her boss. Things take a surprising turn when she discovers she's pregnant, a secret Julian soon uncovers.
To Live or To Love
The celibate CEO Alex, born with a pure-yang constitution, cannot live past New Year's Eve. He finds by chance that Luna, the only woman with a pure-yin constitution, can cure him, so he marries her to survive, gradually falling for her. On hearing that Luna's life will be in peril after saving him, Alex is put in a dilemma.
Gambling Queen against Casino
Vivian, a retired Mahjong legend who swore off gambling, is forced back when her son loses everything to the casino Sky Palace. Facing her senior Derek, she engages in a final high-stakes duel, exposing his crimes and proving the truth that those who gamble for a long time will surely lose.
The Twins' President Daddy
Quincy Zoey was framed by her stepmother and her stepsister Melissa Zoey. While she was escaping, she had a one-night stand with Justin Yael, the president of the Yael Group, and got pregnant with twins. After Quincy gave birth, Melissa took her son. Five years later, Quincy returned with her twin daughter to seek revenge against her wicked stepmother and sister. Eventually, she reunited with Justin Yael and her son.
One Night with My First Love
Orphaned at ten, Freya grows up in her crush’s house, secretly in love with the Thorns’s heir, Byron, until his mother tears them apart. Five years later, he returns, and a welcome party turns into a one-night stand. When their secret feelings erupt, will they fight for each other or give in again?